March 2019 Plenary Meeting in Vancouver, BC, Canada

Agenda

Opening Plenary

Closing Plenary

TSN agenda

PDF of the following approved WG minutes

IEEE 802.1 Working Group

March 10-15, 2019 Plenary Session

Vancouver, BC, Canada

Session Minutes

The acting Working Group (WG) Chair, John Messenger, presided.

The 802.1 Recording Secretary, Jessy Rouyer, wrote the minutes in part based on input from

the Chairs and their Secretaries.

Attendance and affiliation

Coming soon!

802.1 Officers and Management

Glenn Parsons 

Working Group Chair

John Messenger 

Working Group Vice-chair and acting Chair

Jessy Rouyer 

Working Group Secretary and acting Vice-Chair

Paul Congdon

Maintenance Task Group Chair

Max Riegel

OmniRAN Task Group Chair

Mick Seaman

Security Task Group Chair

János Farkas

Time-Sensitive Networking Task Group Chair

Craig Gunther

Time-Sensitive Networking Task Group Vice-Chair and Secretary

Ludwig Winkel

IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project Chair

Josef Dorr

IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project Secretary

Roger Marks

Nendica Chair

Scott Mansfield

YANGsters Chair

Stephan Kehrer

YANGsters acting Chair

Mark Hantel

Email Maintenance and

IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project Website Maintenance

Paul Unbehagen

Website Maintenance

Hal Keen

Email Maintenance

Opening Plenary Meeting

Monday March 11, 2019

10:39 AM (call to order by the acting Chair) to 12:32 PM

The Vice-Chair, John Messenger, presided as acting Chair.

The Recording Secretary, Jessy Rouyer, wrote the minutes.

The acting Chair presented the Opening Agenda slides finalized as http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/minutes/2019-03-opening-plenary-slides-v3.pdf.

During this presentation, the acting Chair:

  • Introduced the agenda on slide 2. The agenda was approved.
  • Presented slides 3 through 7 (including reproduced slides 0 through 4 of the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings, separately available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html).
    The acting Chair:
    • Presented information on these slides including:
      • Instructions for the WG Chair (and TG Chairs);
      • Participants’ duty to inform the IEEE;
      • Ways to inform IEEE;
      • Other guidelines for IEEE WG meetings; and
      • Patent-related information.
    • Advised WG attendees that:
      • IEEE’s patent policy is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;
      • Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development is strongly encouraged;
      • There may be Essential Patent Claims of which IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither IEEE, the WG, nor the WG Chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.
    • Made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents” thereby providing an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard.
      • There were no responses to the call.
    • Reminded 802.1 TG Chairs of their daily obligations (per slide 8) with respect to presenting the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings and making the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents”.
  • Reviewed general administrative information including:
    • Meeting “Decorum” or rules, including the policies on public reporting, and on photography or recording (slide 9);
      • The acting Chair called for any members of the press (i.e., anyone reporting publicly on this meeting) to announce their presence.
        • There were no responses to the call.
    • Participation in IEEE 802 meetings on an individual basis (slide 10);
    • Hotel and meeting room security (slide 11);
    • General information on 802.1 (slide 12), including information on newcomers orientation available at http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2018/tsn-farkas-intro-0318-v01.pdf, information on 802.1 operation available at http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/minutes/802-1-general-info-v3.pdf, a reminder that contributions are to be uploaded before presentation, how to access meeting minutes and schedule, and how to report meeting session attendance;
    • Meeting logistics (slide 13).
  • Introduced 802.1 officers (slide 14) announcing that Craig Gunther:
    • Is appointed Vice-Chair of the Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) TG;
    • Will preside over TSN TG “track B”; and
    • Will continue as TSN TG Secretary for this session.
  • Encouraged volunteers to step in to serve as TSN TG Secretary in future sessions.
  • Provided 802.1 website information (slide 14).
  • Reviewed the list of 802.1 voters (slide 15), including information about individuals who have lost (slide 16), may gain (slides 18 and 19), may (slide 20) or will lose (slide 17) 802.1 voting membership.
  • Reminded individual participants of their obligations and of 802.11 reciprocal credit, which was continued at this meeting (slide 21).
  • Provided an update on the 802.1 website at http://1.ieee802.org (slide 22).
  • Reviewed the schedule for future interim sessions (slide 23):
    • May 20-24, 2019 in Salt Lake City, UT, USA
    • September 2019 in Edinburgh, UK
      • John Messenger gave an oral update on ADVA Optical Networking hosting the week of September 16, 2020
    • January 20-24, 2020 (workshop January 25) potentially in Geneva, Switzerland
      • Steve Trowbridge presented slides 24 to 26.
    • May 2020 in North America
    • September 2020 potentially in China
  • Reviewed the schedule for future plenary sessions (slide 27):
    • July 14-19, 2019 in Vienna, Austria
    • November 10-15, 2019 in Waikoloa, HI, USA
    • March 15-20, 2020 in Atlanta, GA, USA
    • July 12-17, 2020 in Montreal, QC, Canada
    • November 8-13, 2020 in Bangkok, Thailand
    • March 14-19, 2021 in Denver, CO, USA
  • Reported the following items out of the 802 Executive Committee (EC) executive session (slide 28):
    • SA staff are available – Jodi Haasz is our new staff contact
    • 802 Task Force (Thurs 10:30-12:30 – Oxford – HRV 3rd Floor)
      • IEEE SA Tools update – Web conferencing
      • Bulk Framemaker licenses
    • P&P, OM, WG & CG change proposals (EC-19-37)
      • Update Standard Committee P&P
      • Update WG P&P
    • Venues (EC-16-66-07)
      • Bangkok was popular
    • Treasurer (EC-19-35)
      • Nov 2018: $44k surplus with larger attendance
      • 2019 projected loss: $500k (reducing reserves to $1M)
  • Showed statistics on the standing of 802 (C/LM) as part of the top 10 Society/Committee Projects and Standards (slide 29).
  • Reviewed the list of 802 EC meetings to be held this week (slide 30).
  • Indicated that the status of myProject is unchanged since the last plenary session (slide 31).
  • Provided and discussed an update on the IEEE Open Source offering (slide 32).
  • Provided information about public review (slide 33) and about the following email ballots (ePoll) since the last plenary session (slide 34):
    • None.
  • Pointed out PARs, CSDs, and ICAIDs that were up for vote at this IEEE 802 plenary session (slides 35 and 36) and encouraged the TSN TG to review material on 802.11be
      • Related to 802.11be, the TSN TG Chair indicated that the TG and 802.11 may meet jointly at the July 2019 IEEE 802.1 plenary session, the acting Chair encouraging discussion on topics of common interest via cross-WG collaboration.
  • Introduced the 802 Industry Connections activity (slide 37) and the Monday tutorial at this 802 plenary session (slide 38).
  • Reviewed the list of liaisons within 802 (joint and standing committee meetings, 802 task force) for which meetings were to be held during this 802 plenary week (slide 39).
  • Reviewed the list of liaisons incoming to 802.1 to be handled by the TSN TG (slide 40).
  • Provided the anticipation of next actions with respect to projects in the WG’s current workload (slide 42) and discussed promotion of the work of the WG (slide 43).
  • Provided an overview of the various IEEE-SA Awards, encouraging nominations (slide 44).
  • Noted that Standards Project Awards are being prepared (slide 45).
  • Summarized the list of anticipated motions for EC Consent Agenda (slides 46-47).
  • Showed the 802.1 plenary schedule/agenda for this meeting, which was tacitly approved (slide 48).
  • Listed 802.1 management meetings (slide 49).
  • Requested that the sub group agendas be presented (slide 50):
    • The YANGsters acting Chair, Stephan Kehrer, presented the agenda on slide 51
    • The TSN TG Chair, János Farkas, presented the agenda on slide 53.
    • The OmniRAN TG Chair, Max Riegel, presented the agenda on slides 54-55.
    • The Security TG Chair, Mick Seaman, presented the agenda on slide 52.
    • The Maintenance TG Chair, Paul Congdon, presented the agenda on slide 56.
    • The Nendica Chair, Roger Marks, presented the agenda on slide 57.
  • Called for Any Other Business (A.O.B. – slide 59):

Maintenance Task Group

Tuesday March 12, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 9:45 AM

The Maintenance Task Group Chair, Paul Congdon, presided and wrote the minutes.

At the beginning of the meeting the TG Chair presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf, the IEEE 802 Participation slide https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0093-05-0PNP-ieee-802-participation-slide-ppt.ppt, and made the Call for Potentially Essential Patents. There were no responses to the call prior to the end of the meeting.

The TG Chair:

Future meetings/teleconferences

Future meetings were discussed but the TG intends to hold teleconferences on the Tuesday of the week before the next Interim and Plenary sessions. The teleconferences will be held on Tuesday May 14, 2019 and Tuesday July 09, 2019 at 8:00AM Pacific, unless cancelled prior to the call. A motion to propose the teleconferences will be made at the closing plenary.

The TG meets face-to-face next at the May 2019 IEEE 802.1 interim session in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

Post-meeting, the TG Chair provided meeting slides updated based on discussion in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/maint-congdon-session-0319-v02.pdf. The TG website at http://www.ieee802.org/1/maint.html provides further details and discussion.

OmniRAN Task Group

The OmniRAN Task Group Chair, Max Riegel, presided.

Hao Wang wrote the minutes.

At the beginning of the meetings on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday the TG Chair presented the mandatory IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings and the IEEE 802 Participation slide contained in the OmniRAN session slides for the week (IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG March 2018 F2F Meeting Vancouver, BC https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0013-01-00TG-mar-2019-f2f-meeting-slides.pptx), and made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents”. There were no responses to the calls prior to the end of the week’s session.

Additionally to the participants listed in section 1 who registered in IMAT, the following individuals also participated:

  • Don Pannell, NXP Semiconductors

The session slides were amended throughout the OmniRAN TG meetings of the week with additional auxiliary information and finally uploaded to mentor as https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0013-04-00TG-mar-2019-f2f-meeting-slides.pptx.

Current status of OmniRAN Task Group activities (including future meeting announcements, past meeting and conference call minutes) is available at https://1.ieee802.org/omniran/.

Monday 11 March 2019

01:30 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 03:30 PM

Agenda Approval

The TG Chair presented the agenda per slide 11 of the session slides.
The agenda was reviewed and discussed.

Disposition: The following agenda was approved per acclamation.

  • Review of minutes
  • Reports
  • IEEE 802.1CF socialization activities
  • P802.1CQ contributions and discussions
    • P802.1CQ ToC and specification text contributions
  • Potential new project for OmniRAN TG
  • Conference calls until July 2019 F2F
  • Status report to IEEE 802 WGs
  • Liaisons
  • Next meeting
  • AOB

Schedule of topics during the week

The TG Chair discussed availabilities of the contributors and preferences to discuss the various topics.

Disposition: Agreement to arrange the discussion topics according to the following plan over the week:

Mon, 13:30 – 15:30

Review of minutes

Reports

P802.1CQ contributions and discussions

    • P802.1CQ ToC and specification text contributions

Tue, 13:30 – 15:30

IEEE 802.1CF socialization activities

Potential new project for OmniRAN TG

Liaisons

Conference calls until July 2019 F2F

Motions to 802.1 closing plenary

Draft status report to IEEE 802 WGs

Wed, 13:30 – 15:30

P802.1CQ contributions and discussions

    • IEEE 802.11 related discussions

Status report to IEEE 802 WGs

Next meeting

AOB

Review of minutes

The TG Chair presented the minutes of the OmniRAN TG and asked for comments, if any.

Disposition: No comments were raised on any of the minutes.

Reports

P802.1CF was forwarded for RevCom approval at its March 20, 2019 meeting. The IEEE staff editor will engage after Standards Board approval.

The TG Chair explained that a new minutes template was introduced for better integration of all 802.1 TG meeting minutes for jointly held meetings.

Disposition: The TG decided to use the same template for all meetings and conference calls well based on a slightly amended template.

P802.1CQ contributions and discussions

Antonio de la Oliva presented MAC Address Acquisition Protocol https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0011-01-CQ00-maap-introduction.pptx

  • The MAC Address Acquisition Protocol (MAAP), specified in IEEE Std 1722, has been investigated and considered to be reused for both multicast and unicast address assignment in P802.1CQ.
  • A verbal update was provided on the current status of the IEEE 1722 WG. The TG discussed both the use of MAAP in the professional audio market and the rationale for multicast to be addressed in the scope of P802.1CQ.
  • The TG discussed the idea of adopting MAAP in P802.1CQ for self-claiming address assignment in both wired and wireless media, but certain changes may be needed, e.g. the frame encapsulation;
  • It was noted that the EtherType used for MAAP belongs to Harman International.

Disposition: The investigation regarding IEEE 1722 will be presented to the TSN TG on March 12, 2019. The OmniRAN TG will decide how to proceed regarding the adoption of MAAP afterwards.

Tuesday 12 March 2019

01:30 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 03:30 PM

IEEE 802.1CF socialization activities

The TG Chair led a discussion on IEEE 802.1CF socialization activities per slide 15 of the session slides.

Disposition: Max Riegel will contact IEEE staff for more information regarding submission to the BeyondStandards IEEE SA blog.

Liaisons

The TG Chair presented drafts of outgoing liaisons finalized as:

Disposition: An EC consent agenda motion was prepared as per slide 17 of https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0013-04-00TG-mar-2019-f2f-meeting-slides.pptx. Draft liaison to be forwarded to the 802.1 closing plenary for approval. The 802.1 closing plenary did not approve sending this liaison.

For the preparation of a liaison, Roger Marks presented a draft Proposed liaison to IEEE 1722 Working Group https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0017-00-CQ00-proposed-liaison-to-ieee-1722-working-group.pptx regarding MAAP adoption.

Disposition: A motion was prepared as per slide 18 of https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0013-04-00TG-mar-2019-f2f-meeting-slides.pptx. Draft liaison to be forwarded to the 802.1 closing plenary for approval.

Conference calls until the July 2019 802.1 plenary session

TG decided not to meet at the next 802.1 or 802 Wireless Interim to accommodate cross-WG participation in P802.1CQ and availability of main contributors.

Disposition: Agreed to hold 90-minute conference calls at 09:00 AM ET on April 5, 2019 and April 26, 2019. Further conference calls until the July 2019 802.1 plenary session will be discussed on the April 26, 2019 conference call and announced on the 802.1 mailing list.

Wednesday 13 March 2019

01:30 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 03:12 PM

P802.1CQ contributions and discussions

P802.1CQ ToC and specification text contributions

Antonio de la Oliva presented IEEE 802.1CQ ToC https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0016-00-CQ00-thoughts-on-toc.pptx.

  • The proposal in the slides was modified according to, and during the discussion.
  • Open questions were presented and potential conclusions discussed.

Disposition: Agreement reached to start drafting the specification based on IEEE 802.1CQ Table of Contents https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0020-00-CQ00-ieee-802-1cq-table-of-contents.docx with Table of Content modifications as needed during drafting.

IEEE 802.11 related discussions

Antonio de la Oliva presented MAC Address Policy ANQP https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-0286-03-000m-mac-address-policy-anqp-and-beacon-element.docx.

  • This contribution to 802.11md, covered address policy discovery, and was to be discussed in 802.11 on Thursday March 14, 2019.
  • The concept and dependencies on P802.1CQ were discussed and potential dependencies were considered.

Disposition: Conclusion reached that the proposed amendment to 802.11md sufficiently covers the necessary additions to Pre-Association Discovery (PAD).

Status report to IEEE 802 WGs

The TG Chair presented IEEE 802.1 OmniRAN TG Status Report to IEEE 802 WGs https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0019-00-00TG-mar-2019-report-to-ieee-802-wgs.pptx.

Disposition: The report was reviewed and edited as needed.

Next meeting

Conference call on April 5, 2019 at 09:00 AM ET.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

Security Task Group

The Security Task Group Chair, Mick Seaman, presided and wrote the minutes. Security TG participants also participated in the JTC1 SC, see the separate minutes for that meeting.

At the beginning of the TG meetings on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, the TG Chair presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf, the IEEE 802 Participation slide https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0093-05-0PNP-ieee-802-participation-slide-ppt.ppt, and made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents”. There were no responses to the calls prior to the end of the week’s meetings.

Additionally to the participants listed in section 1 who registered in IMAT, the following individuals also participated:

  • Ben Anderson, U.S. Federal Government [Monday PM]
  • Jody Haasz, IEEE Staff [Monday PM]
  • Jerome Henry, Cisco Systems, Inc. [Wednesday PM]
  • Marc Holness, Ciena Corporation [Wednesday AM]
  • James McIntosh, Microchip Technology, Inc. [Monday PM, Tuesday AM]
  • Mick Seaman, Independent [Wednesday AM]

The draft agenda posted on the 802.1 website prior to the meeting was reviewed by the TG Chair during the 802.1 WG opening plenary. There were no changes at that time, or at the beginning of the TG meeting.

  1. ISO/IEC JTC1 PSDO processing
  2. P802E Privacy (Recommended Practice … for 802 …)
  3. P802.1X-Rev Port-Based Network Access Control
  4. IEEE 802.1AE-2018 Corrigendum
  5. Traffic flow privacy
  6. A.O.B
  7. Future meetings/teleconferences

Monday March 11, 2019

2:00 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 4:30 PM

ISO/IEC JTC1 PSDO processing

The TG Chair led a discussion on the purpose of ISO/IEC JTC1 processing of 802.1 standards, and the current status.

  • FDIS pre-ballots on 802.1AE-Rev, 802.1Q-Rev, 802.1Xck closed March 11, 2019 and were to be discussed (if available) in the Maintenance TG on March 12, 2019.
  • Discussion also continued Wednesday PM.

Disposition: The ballots passed, the comments received on the ballots are in Comments on pre-ballots in ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/maint-randall-SC6comments1Q1XckAE-0319-v1.pdf

A.O.B.

Mick Seaman presented Running with scissors: Cut-through in bridged networks http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-seaman-cut-through-scissors-0119-v01.pdf.

  • Discussion of potential security exposures as per section 3 of the document. Further exposures could be expected.
  • Reaffirmed that all Cipher Suites used by MACsec provide protection against known plain text attacks.

Disposition: Further discussion expected if 802.3 and the TSN TG proceed with cut-through related projects.

IEEE 802.1AE-2018 Corrigendum

The TG Chair led a discussion on the proposed P802.1AE-2018/Cor 1
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/ae-cor1-draft-par-0319-v00.pdf corrigendum PAR.

Disposition: Agreed (non-dissenting) to present to the Maintenance TG and request forwarding to NesCom.

Traffic flow privacy

Don Fedyk presented Ethernet-Traffic Flow Security
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-fedyk-traffic-flow-security-0219.pdf.

  • The TG Chair suggested that this work might be best progressed as an amendment to IEEE Std 802.1AE-2018.
  • The envisaged functionality would be additional (and potentially separable) “Privacy enhancement” capability to be used in conjunction with (rather than as a change to MACsec).
  • The scope of work could include development of an informative “Privacy Considerations” annex based on Privacy considerations in bridged networks
    http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2018/e-seaman-privacy-in-bridged-networks-1018-v01.pdf as this would provide useful background, as well as address the issue of where to place such material (it being impractical to engage in multiple projects to add privacy considerations to all 802.1 standards, as well as there being a need to assess privacy as a function of using standards in combination with each other).
  • The need for managed objects might be best addressed by YANG, as a new MIB or extensions to the existing MIB would be unlikely to be used. This would necessitate creating a YANG model for the existing 802.1AE functionality, based on the existing IEEE Std 802.1AE-2018 Figure 10-5 SecY managed objects UML (and not on conversion of the existing MIB).

Disposition: Discussion to be continued Tuesday PM.

Tuesday March 12, 2019

10:30 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 12:30 PM

P802E Privacy (Recommended Practice … for 802 …)

Jerome Henry, P802E editor, led the resolution of comments received in the TG ballot on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-e-drafts/d1/802E-d1-3.pdf based on

  • Editor report: Comment Resolution for 802.1 TG Ballot D 1.3 (as of 03/12/2019) http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-e-drafts/d1/802E-d1-3-editor-report.pdf
  • Initial Disposition of Working Group Ballot Comments on IEEE Draft P802E-Rev-D1.3 http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-e-drafts/d1/802E-d1-3-pdis1.pdf
    • This initial disposition showed (incorrectly) the ballot as a WG ballot, and recorded passed/failed (not applicable at TG ballot) accordingly.
    • Refinements to this initial disposition to be incorporated in the next draft and a revised disposition.
  • Clarified in discussion of comment 296 that a threat model is a process by which threats are identified, and as such the entire document comprises the threat model. Text to be added by the editor as a new clause 1.3 to make that point, offline input from the TG welcomed.
  • Next draft to be forwarded for IETF coordination (via Dorothy Stanley) as agreed in the November 2018 coordination meeting.
  • No work directly on P802E in the May 2019 802.1 interim session. WG ballot of next draft to be made available through the normal 802.1 process for soliciting comments from other WGs, with ballot resolution during the July 2019 802.1 plenary session.

Disposition: Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to request permission to proceed to WG ballot with the next draft.

3:30 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 5:00 PM

Traffic flow privacy

Don Fedyk presented Ethernet-Traffic Flow Security
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-fedyk-traffic-flow-security-0219.pdf.

  • Continuation of Tuesday PM discussion, focusing on the “Traffic Flow Security Requirements” in the document.
  • Discussion of a potential “privacy shim” and accompanying frame formats. Frame format to be self-identifying, i.e., correct decoding would not depend on any mode setting negotiated between transmitter and receivers(s). Options available to transmitter to choose extent to which traffic analysis could be protected against, e.g. fixed frame sizes with padding, packing original frames in larger frame, padding at front of frame before including a frame (or between frames included in outer frame). Small number of options to be described to allow for clarity in describing implementation capabilities to user, not restricting more complex strategies (e.g., making flow characteristics appear like the known characteristics of a different flow).
  • Fragmentation of an original frame across an encapsulating frame (necessitating reassembly) likely to be the most controversial suggestion. Though reassembly not necessarily mandatory, may result in usual ‘any option in standard becomes mandatory to implement’. Partitioning privacy enhancement from MACsec encryption as a clean shim means more information to be carried in privacy enhancement to ensure correct reassembly. May be some view that fragmentation/reassembly capability should be left to similar IP project. Needs WG discussion.
  • Will be interest from MACsec implementers not attending 802 meetings. Need outreach activity to those implementers.
  • Prepare further information and detail to begin 802.1 discussion in May 2019. Potential request to develop a PAR in July 2019, with PAR development during the September 2019 802.1 interim session.

Disposition: For further discussion in teleconferences and during the May 2019 802.1 interim session.

Wednesday March 13, 2019

9:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 12:00 PM

Mick Seaman, P802.1X-Rev editor, led the resolution of comments received in the WG ballot on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/x-rev-drafts/d1/802-1X-rev-d1-0.pdf.

  • Initial disposition of comments showing the comments received: Proposed Disposition of the Working Group Ballot on IEEE Draft Standard P802.1X-Rev/D1.0 http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/x-rev-drafts/d1/802-1X-rev-d1-0-pdis00.pdf
  • The WG ballot passed (100% Approve, 80% Response)
  • A number of comments were simple editorial and could be dealt with by the editor. Comment 79 was discussed, no change to the proposed disposition at this time, but follow up with the commenter required.
  • A large number of comments were directed at the YANG model introduced by the 802.1Xck amendment. In general, these were directed at a very tight specification of the model, as opposed to a looser, more embracing, definition with the use of deviation/refinement for managing specific items of equipment. In general, the tighter definition was viewed favorably.
  • Some of the comments, specifically those on timer values, suggested that the base specification be changed to fit the past MIB and past/future YANG capabilities. This would be a deviation from past practice, where the base specification takes precedence of restriction and description in the MIB. Changes to timer values/ranges would require careful consideration. Some discussion on the adequacy or otherwise of timer value ranges considering the wide range of equipment types to be managed.
  • Detailed discussion of restriction of the UTF-8 alphabet in strings. Not considered culturally sensitive.

Disposition: For further discussion in teleconferences, with goal of completing WG recirculation ballot before the July 2019 802.1 plenary.

1:45 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 4:30 PM

P802E Privacy (Recommended Practice … for 802 …)

Jerome Henry, P802E editor, led the resolution of comments received in the TG ballot on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-e-drafts/d1/802E-d1-3.pdf

  • Discussion continued from Tuesday AM. Brief discussion of the proposed new clause 1.3.

Disposition:

ISO/IEC JTC1 PSDO processing

The TG Chair led a discussion on the ISO/IEC JTC1 processing of 802.1 standards.

Disposition: Continue discussion on responses to the IEEE Std 802.1AE Revision and IEEE Std 802.1Xck comments on teleconferences.

Future meetings/teleconferences

Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to hold teleconferences for progression of work as identified during this session and to address TG matters arising, subject to the usual required notice, with the first in the first or second week of April 2019. Short discussion on time of day, 10.00 AM Pacific/1.00 PM Eastern.

The TG will meet during the May 2019 IEEE 802.1 interim session in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA. The main topic will be traffic flow privacy. P802E will not be discussed.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

Time-Sensitive Networking Task Group

The Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) Task Group Chair, János Farkas, presided. The TSN TG Secretary, Craig Gunther, wrote the minutes.

At the beginning of the meetings on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday the TG Chair and/or TG Vice-Chair presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf, the IEEE 802 Participation slide https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0093-05-0PNP-ieee-802-participation-slide-ppt.ppt,, and made the Call for Potentially Essential Patents. There were no responses to the calls prior to the end of the week’s session.

Minutes of the TG conference calls held since the last plenary session are available at https://1.ieee802.org/tsn-calls-0319-0719/.

Monday March 11, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 10:00 AM

The TG Chair presented the agenda in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/admin-TSN-agenda-0319-v03.pdf.
Disposition: The agenda was reviewed, discussed and approved.

Marc Holness, P802.1Qcx editor, led the resolution of comments received on

http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cx-drafts/d1/802-1Qcx-d1-0.pdf.

  • Continuation of the comment resolution that began on the weekly TSN calls.

Disposition: Disposition recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cx-drafts/d1/802-1Qcx-d1-0-pdis-v09.pdf. Updated post-meeting as http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cx-drafts/d1/802-1Qcx-d1-0-pdis-v11.pdf.

1:30 PM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 6:00 PM

The TG Chair presented:

Disposition: Incoming liaisons discussed and responses prepared for the closing plenary.

Paul Congdon presented IETF LSVR WG Work on LSoE (Link neighbor, liveness and encapsulation discovery) http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/liaison-IETF-LSVR-Link-State-over-Ethernet-0119.pdf

Disposition: Incoming liaison discussed and response prepared for the closing plenary.

The TG Chair presented the July 5, 2018 OPC Foundation Liaison request and access to IEEE P802.1 Drafts http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2018/liaison-OPCF-liaison-and-drafts-0718-v01.pdf and the initial July 12, 2018 802.1 response in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2018/liaison-response-OPCF-0718-v01.pdf.

Disposition: Previous material discussed and further response prepared for the closing plenary.

Marc Holness presented LS/r on Coordination of Ethernet information and data modelling work (reply to IEEE 802.1-LS44 & Broadband Forum-LS133) http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/liaison-SG15-LS176-data+info-model-0119.pdf.

Disposition: Incoming liaison discussed and prepared response for closing Plenary.

The TG Chair reviewed draft motions for the closing plenary, finalized beginning slide 44 of http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/minutes/2019-03-closing-plenary-slides-v7.pdf.

Disposition: Material discussed and updated.

Geoff Garner, P802.1AS-REV editor, presented P802.1AS-Rev/D8.0 Editor’s Report Proposed Comment Resolution for Sponsor Ballot http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/as-garner-802-1AS-Rev-d8-0-sponsor-ballot-editors-report-0319.pdf and led the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d8/802-1AS-rev-d8-0.pdf.

Disposition: Continued later in the session.

Christophe Mangin presented AS-Rev pathTrace issue http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/as-mangin-sb-comment-258-support-0319-v02.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed. Related to comment #258 on P802.1AS-Rev/D8.0.

Rodney Cummings presented synchronizationUncertain feature in IEEE P1588-rev (for IEEE P802.1AS-rev comment i-368) http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/as-cummings-1588rev-sync-uncertain-0319-v1.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed. Related to comment #368 on P802.1AS-Rev/D8.0.

The TG Chair presented 802.1Qcp press release http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/liaison-SG15-LS176-data+info-model-0119.pdf, finalized per slide 57 of http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/minutes/2019-03-closing-plenary-slides-v7.pdf.

Disposition: Material discussed and updated.

Tuesday March 12, 2019

10:30 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 6:00 PM, with a 1-hour lunch break

Roger Marks presented Investigating the Multicast Usage Model for P802.1CQ https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/19/omniran-19-0009-01-CQ00.pptx.

Disposition: The TG explained the need for multicast addressing and suggested a liaison be sent to IEEE 1722.

Geoff Garner, P802.1AS-REV editor, continued the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d8/802-1AS-rev-d8-0.pdf.

Disposition: Continued later in the session.

Marina Gutiérrez, P802.1Qcw editor, provided a verbal status update on P802.1Qcw.

Disposition: Material discussed. A new draft and a TG ballot are next.

Johannes Specht, P802.1Qcr editor, presented ATS Current Work http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/cr-specht-currentwork-0319-v01.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Stephan Kehrer presented TSN Configuration Enhancements http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-kehrer-TSN-Configuration-Enhancements-0319-v01.pdf, a proposed project.

Disposition: Material discussed.

The TG Chair and Kevin Stanton led the review of 802.11 EHT [Enhancements for Extremely High Throughput] Proposed PAR [P802.11be] https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/18/11-18-1231-04-0eht-eht-draft-proposed-par.docx.
Disposition: Material discussed. PAR and CSD comments (per slides 12-14 in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/19/11-19-0459-04-0eht-eht-par-and-csd-comments.pptx) were submitted.

Paul Congdon presented Next steps for LLDPv2 proposals http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-congdon-LLDPv2-0319-v01.pdf, an update on a proposed project.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Yoshihisa Kondo presented Further consideration for enhanced mechanism for flexible factory http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-FFIoT-kondo-further-consideration-for-enhanced-mechanism-for-flexible-factory-0319-v01.pdf, an update on a proposed project.
Disposition: Material discussed.

6:00 PM to 6:12 PM

The TSN TG and 802.24 had a joint meeting. János Farkas, TSN TG Chair, and Tim Godfrey, 802.24 Technical Advisory Group (TAG) Chair, presided. The TSN TG Secretary, Craig Gunther, wrote the minutes.

The TAG Chair presented Utility Applications of Time Sensitive Networking White Paper (D3) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/dcn/18/24-18-0022-03-sgtg-utility-applications-of-time-sensitive-networking-white-paper-d3.docx, an update on an existing whitepaper project.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Wednesday March 13, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by Ludwig Winkel) to 10:00 AM

Minutes of this meeting, a joint meeting of the TSN TG and IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project, are

provided in section 8 below.

10:30 AM (call to order by the TG Chair) to 6:30 PM, with a 1-hour lunch break

Paul Unbehagen, P802.1Qcj editor, presented 802.1Qcj D0.4 Status http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/Qcj-unbehagen-tg-ballot-editors-report-0319-v00.pptx and led the resolution of comments received on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cj-drafts/d0/802-1Qcj-d0-4.pdf.

Disposition: Disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cj-drafts/d0/802-1Qcj-d0-4-pdis-v01.pdf.

Norman Finn presented Portal Associations in P802.1CS D2.1 http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/cs-finn-portal-associations-0319-v2.pdf, an overview of changes in state machines for draft 2.1.

Disposition: Material discussed.

Feng Chen presented potential draft text http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/dd-chen-draft-text-contribution-0319-v01.pdf for P802.1Qdd Resource Allocation Protocol (RAP).
Disposition: Material discussed.

Paul Congdon presented Draft Individual Contribution P802.1Qcz http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/cz-congdon-draft-contribution-0319-v01.pdf and potential draft text http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/cz-congdon-draft-text-contribution-0319-v01.pdf for P802.1Qcz Congestion Isolation.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Christophe Mangin presented 802.1CBdb draft text contribution http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/db-mangin-text-contribution-companion-0319-v01.pptx and potential draft text http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/db-mangin-draft-text-contribution-0319-v03.pdf for P802.1CBdb Extended Stream identification.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Geoff Garner, P802.1AS-REV editor, continued the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d8/802-1AS-rev-d8-0.pdf.

Disposition: Continued later in the session.

Thursday March 14, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Vice-Chair) to 12:30 PM

The Task Group Vice-Chair, Craig Gunther, presided.

The TG Vice-Chair presented the agenda in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/admin-TSN-agenda-0319-v03.pdf

Michael Potts presented Managing Automotive Accumulated Network Traffic Congestion Points – Use Case http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/dg-potts-auto-network-accum-cong-use-case-0319-v01.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Michael Potts presented Automotive Time Synchronization – Use Case http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/dg-potts-automotive-time-sync-use-case-0319-v01.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Helge Zinner presented Automotive Time Synchronization – Use Case http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/dg-zinner-automotive-architecture-evolution-0319-v02.pdf.
Disposition: Material discussed.

Geoff Garner, P802.1AS-REV editor, continued the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d8/802-1AS-rev-d8-0.pdf.

Disposition: Disposition recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cx-drafts/d1/802-1Qcx-d1-0-pdis-v09.pdf.

IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project

Ludwig Winkel, IEC MT9 Convenor and IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project Chair (60802 Chair), and János Farkas, IEEE 802.1 TSN Task Group Chair (TG Chair), presided. The IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project Secretary (60802 Secretary), Josef Dorr, wrote the minutes.

At the beginning of the meetings on each day:

Draft minutes were reviewed at the end of the week’s session under the lead of the 60802 Secretary.

Wednesday March 13, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair and the 60802 Chair) to 10:00 AM

The TSN TG and IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project had a joint meeting.

The TG Chair and the 60802 Chair:

  • Welcomed the participants of the IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project, a joint effort of the:
    • IEC 65C/MT9/PT 60802 (TSN) Project Team, led by Ludwig Winkel; and
    • IEEE 802.1 Time-Sensitive Networking Task Group, led by the TG Chair.
  • Provided information about internet access, lunch, attendance log to the IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project.

The TG chair reminded that the deadline for text contributions associated with ballot comments is the end of the ballot period. The TG Chair noted that it is good practice to take a look at the proposed disposition and associated contributions prior to the meeting.

The 60802 Chair reported on Conformity Assessment activities. The 60802 Chair announced two IEC 65C/PT60802 Task Force (TF) meetings in Frankfurt/Main, Germany to prepare an IECEE project: April 16-18, 2019, and May 7-9, 2019, per [802.1 – 13060] Task Force Meetings IEC SC65C/PT60802 on TSN Conformance Testing according to IEC/IEEE 60802 http://www.ieee802.org/1/private/email2/msg28171.html and Meeting announcement for task force meetings of the IEC.IEEE.60802 https://collaborate.iec.ch/#/pages/workspaces/139201/documents/111335/details/395991.

Stephan Kehrer gave a briefing on his proposal for a new project for TSN Configuration Enhancements http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/new-kehrer-TSN-Configuration-Enhancements-0319-v01.pdf that he presented the day before in the TSN TG. The scope that should be covered by a new project was discussed. The TG Chair proposed to continue the discussion in teleconferences or offline until the next IEEE 802.1 interim session. The topic was to be resumed on Friday. There was to be a related motion at the IEEE 802.1 closing plenary.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, presented Editor’s Report 60802 Draft 1.0 http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-woods-D10-update-0319-v01.pdf on the TG ballot and IEC Committee Draft (CD) on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf. The 60802 Chair reminded that the IEC CD review of the draft was started on January 28, 2019 and was ongoing until March 22, 2019. The 60802 Chair copied the comments received in the TG ballot to the IEC collaboration tool indicating that the national committees should not provide comments that are already in the IEC collaboration tool. The 60802 Chair will provide the comments from the IEC CD review to the 60802 editor for incorporation into the comment database.

János Farkas presented http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-farkas-d1-0-ballot-comment-support-steps-1-and-2-clean-0219-v01.pdf supporting ballot comments #578 (regarding restructuring) and #579 (regarding conformance) to slightly restructure 60802/D1.0.

Disposition: Further discussion is needed. The topic will be resumed.

The TSN TG and IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project met separately afterwards.

10:30 AM (call to order by the 60802 Chair) to 6:00 PM with a 1-hour lunch break

Graeme Wood presented a proposal to revise 60802 subclause 4.1 Control Loop Basic Model http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-wood-d1-0-comments-clause-4-1-0119-v01.pdf.

Disposition: The contribution will be integrated with modifications into the next 60802 draft.

Mark Hantel presented A Sample Selection for an Industrial Profile of TSN (with contributions) http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-Hantel-SampleSelection-0319-v00.pdf.

Disposition: Further discussion is needed.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, continued resolving comments received in the TG ballot on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf.

Disposition: Partial disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Thursday March 14, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair and the 60802 Chair) to 1:30 PM with a 30-minute break

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, continued resolving comments received in the TG ballot on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf.

Disposition: Partial disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Jordon Woods presented Considerations for securing the Industrial Network http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-woods-SecurityConsiderations-0319-v01.pdf.

Disposition: Further discussion is needed.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, continued resolving comments received in the TG ballot on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf.

Disposition: Partial disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Astrit Ademaj presented Traffic Type Introduction http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-ademaj-traffic-type-introduction-0319-v03.pdf

Disposition: Further discussion is needed.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, continued resolving comments received in the TG ballot on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf.

Disposition: Partial disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Friday March 15, 2019

8:00 AM (call to order by the TG Chair and the 60802 Chair) to 3:30 PM with a 90-minute lunch break

The TSN TG and IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project had a joint meeting.

The TG Chair and the 60802 Chair summarized the work performed so far in this session, and pointed out that future IEEE 802.1 sessions https://1.ieee802.org/meetings/ and upcoming TSN TG conference calls https://1.ieee802.org/tsn-calls/ are linked from the 60802 project page https://1.ieee802.org/tsn/iec-ieee-60802/ and the IEC Collaborative Tool https://collaborate.iec.ch/#/pages/workspaces/139201/documents/42125.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, led a discussion on the structure of the 60802 conformance clause.

The 60802 Chair proposed to document the high-level principles for the essence of 60802 then give license to the editor to implement these principles in 60802 as he sees best fit. The IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project agreed to this approach.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, drafted the following high-level 60802 principles together with the IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project during the session:

  1. The 60802 standard shall explicitly identify which parts (clauses, subclauses, figures, lists, tables, etc.) of the cited standards apply to this profile.
  2. The features of any cited standard that are mandatory, optional, excluded, or not applicable shall be explicitly identified.
  3. Additional constraints for features of any cited standard shall be identified.

The IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project agreed to these 60802 principles that were to be recorded in the resolution of comment #579 in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Graeme Wood and Mark Hantel presented http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-Wood-clause411-0319-v04.docx and http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/60802-Hantel-Ch4Contribution-0319-v02.docx, respectively.

Disposition: The updated proposals will be integrated into the next 60802 draft.

Jordon Woods, 60802 editor, continued resolving comments received in the TG ballot on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0.pdf.

Disposition: Partial disposition recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/60802-drafts/d1/60802-d1-0-pdis-v03.pdf.

Future meetings/teleconferences

Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to hold biweekly teleconferences starting on Monday March 25, 2019.

The IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project meets next May 22-24 during the May 2019 IEEE 802.1 interim session in Salt Lake City, Utah, USA.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

Nendica

The IEEE 802 Network Enhancements for the Next Decade Industry Connections Activity (Nendica) Chair, Roger Marks, presided.

Hao Wang wrote the minutes.

Additionally to the participants listed in section 1 who registered in IMAT, the following individuals also participated:

  • Randy Haagens, Microsoft Corporation [Wednesday AM]
  • Jesus Escudero-Sahuquillo, University of Castilla-La Mancha (UCLM). [Wednesday AM remotely]

Tuesday March 12, 2019

19:30 (call to order by the Nendica Chair) to 21:16

A conference call bridge was setup for remote participants.

The Nendica Chair presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.pdf, the IEEE 802 Participation slide https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/16/ec-16-0180.pdf, and IEEE ICCOM requirements https://1.ieee802.org/802-nendica/ieee-iccom-requirements/.

Agenda Approval

The Nendica Chair presented the agenda in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0024-00-ICne.pdf.

Disposition: The agenda was reviewed, discussed and approved.

The Nendica Chair proposed to defer data center agenda items to the Nendica meeting on March 13, 2019.

Update

The Nendica Chair showed the update of the Nendica webpage https://1.ieee802.org/802-nendica/, the documents on the Mentor server to be discussed, and how to record attendance on IMAT.

The Nendica Chair presented IEEE 802 “Network Enhancements for the Next Decade”
Industry Connections Activity (Nendica): Status Report
https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0023-00-ICne-nendica-meeting-overview-2019-03.pptx.

Review of Minutes

The Nendica Chair presented draft minutes of the Nendica conference call held February 28, 2019 https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0021-00-ICne-minutes-of-nendica-meeting-of-2019-02-28.docx.

Disposition: No comments were raised. Without objection, these minutes were approved.

ICAID Renewal

The Nendica Chair presented the ICCOM Nendica Status Report in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0015-01-ICne-iccom-nendica-status-report-draft.pptx, the 2018 Annual Nendica Report in https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/18/1-18-0078-02-ICne.ppt and the updated IEEE 802 Network Enhancements for the Next Decade Industry Connections Activity (Nendica) Initiation Document (ICAID) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/18/1-18-0079-02-ICne-icaid-extension-and-revision-proposed-draft.docx.

Disposition: No comments were raised. The following motion was presented:

  • Motion:
    • To agree to forward ICAID renewal draft accompanied by 2018 Annual Nendica Report and ICCOM Nendica Status Report as background information.
    • Moved by Paul Congdon, seconded by Nader Zein
    • Yes: 18, No: 0, Abstain: 0
    • Motion passed

FFIoT

Nader Zein presented FFIoT Status Report – IEEE 802 Nendica https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0022-01-ICne-ffiot-status-report-ieee-802-nendica-march-2019.pptx and summarized Flexible Factory IoT: Use Cases and Communication Requirements for Wired and Wireless Bridged Networks https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/18/1-18-0025-07-ICne-pre-draft-wired-wireless-use-cases-and-communication-requirements-for-flexible-factories-iot-bridged-network.pdf.

  • The group discussed the date for the ballot on this draft. The Chair preferred to delay ballot opening until after Nendica’s expected renewal on March 21, 2019.

Disposition: The following motion was presented.

  • Motion:
    • To accept the Flexible Factory IoT report titled “Flexible Factory IoT: Use Cases and Communication Requirements for Wired and Wireless Bridged Networks” draft 802. 1-18-0025-07-ICne as the new “Nendica Draft Report” and initiate a 21-days Call for Comments starting March 21, 2019.
    • Moved by Nader Zein, seconded by Hao Wang
    • Yes: 18, No: 0, Abstain: 0
    • Motion passed

The Nendica Chair offered to prepare the call for comments on the Nendica webpage.

802.21 Study Group topic

Dong-Il Dillon Seo presented Why you should care about VR network requirements https://mentor.ieee.org/802.21/dcn/19/21-19-0022-01-0000-why-you-should-care-about-the-vr-network-requirements.pptx.

  • The group discussed the throughput and QoS requirements for the network in the proposed Virtual Reality (VR) use cases.
  • The group discussed standardization issues and sought to clarify the goals of the Study Group mentioned in the presentation.
    • This Study Group is clarifying requirements for the network and is not authorized to develop a project at this stage.
    • A participant pointed out the past efforts of the 802.1 AVB and TSN TGs, suggesting an investigation of how well current 802 technologies meet the VR use cases.

Disposition: Further information is needed.

Future meetings/teleconferences

Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to hold a teleconference at 9:00 AM ET on April 18, 2019, and at 9:00 AM ET on May 7, 2019.

Nendica meets next during the May 2019 IEEE 802 wireless interim session in Atlanta, GA, USA, and during the May 2019 IEEE 802.1 interim session in Salt Lake City, UT, USA.

Wednesday March 13, 2019

08:00 AM (call to order by the Nendica Chair) to 10:15 AM

A conference call bridge was setup for remote participants.

Lossless Data Center Networks (LLDCN)

Jesus Escudero-Sahuquillo presented Congestion Management for Ethernet-based Lossless DataCenter Networks https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/19/1-19-0020-00-ICne-presentation-on-congestion-management-for-ethernet-based-lossless-datacenter-networks.pdf.

Disposition: The presenter is encouraged to come back with new information in future meetings.

Future meetings/teleconferences

Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to hold an additional teleconference at 8:00 AM PT on April 10, 2019.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

YANGsters

The YANGsters acting Chair, Stephan Kehrer, presided and wrote the minutes.

Additionally to the participants listed in section 1 who registered in IMAT, the following individuals also participated:

  • Mick Seaman, Independent
  • Jodi Haasz, IEEE Standards Staff Liaison for 802.1

Tuesday March 13, 2019

6:10 PM (call to order by the YANGsters Chair) to 7:25 PM

The YANGsters acting Chair presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf, the IEEE 802 Participation slide https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/17/ec-17-0093-05-0PNP-ieee-802-participation-slide-ppt.ppt, and made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents”. There were no responses to the call prior to the end of the week’s meeting.

The YANGsters acting Chair presented the agenda in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/yangsters-smansfield-vancouver-agenda-v02.pdf.

Disposition: The agenda was reviewed, discussed and approved.

The YANGsters acting Chair led the Management Address Grouping (.1Qcx) Comment discussion.

  • The latest version of the solution is not the one reflected in the minutes of the YANGsters teleconference held in February 2019.
  • The latest CFM YANG data model incorporates needed changes.

Disposition: The current proposal was discussed pre-meeting and presented at the meeting. The YANG snippets for the most up-to-date solution are in Management Address Grouping (.1Qcx) suggested solution http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/yangsters-kehrer-management-address-grouping-0319-v01.pdf and also on GitHub at https://github.com/YangModels/yang/blob/master/standard/ieee/draft/802.1/ieee802-dot1q-cfm.yang.

The YANGsters acting Chair summarized information about the IETF Module on Ether[T]ypes.

Disposition: Deferred to a future YANGsters teleconference or meeting.

The YANGsters acting Chair summarized information about, then led a discussion on the IEEE Website for YANG modules and on YANG Catalog Issues. Questions were raised during discussion.

  • Should YANG modules be provided as files on the IEEE 802.1 website (https://1.ieee802.org/) or should they only be linked on GitHub (https://github.com/YangModels/yang/tree/master/standard/ieee/published/802.1)?
    • The “published” folder on GitHub is more useful for developers.
    • The copy on the IEEE server is needed to have a source that is directly under IEEE control.
  • Is it intended to keep all the published versions of the models on the IEEE website (and on GitHub)? If so, how can the different versions be identified?
    • Concerns were raised that adding the date to the filename is redundant information that could introduce additional errors/mismatches. Should this approach be taken? This approach might be necessary for putting the YANG modules on the IEEE website.

Disposition: More discussion needed. An overview figure of how all the bits and pieces fit together (i.e. GitHub, IEEE website, published IEEE document…) will be produced to facilitate the discussion and help decide. YANGsters need to clarify the process before they can define how to name files, how to keep them on the IEEE website and GitHub, etc.: this is a topic to be discussed on future YANGsters teleconference or meeting, the result of which should result in a process description.

The YANGsters acting Chair summarized information about, then led a discussion on the IEEE Open Source Initiative.

Disposition: More detailed information on the current situation is planned to be provided in the YANGsters monthly teleconference in April 2019.

Future meetings/teleconferences

Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to put forward a motion in the closing plenary session to authorize YANGsters to hold monthly teleconferences on the last Tuesday of every month, starting Tuesday March 26, 2019 and ending Tuesday June 25, 2019.

A.O.B.

No other business was discussed in this meeting.

Closing Plenary Meeting

Thursday March 14, 2019

1:43 AM (call to order by the acting Chair) to 6:30 PM

The Vice-Chair, John Messenger, presided as acting Chair.

The Recording Secretary, Jessy Rouyer, wrote the minutes.

The acting Chair presented the Closing Agenda slides finalized as http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/minutes/2019-03-closing-plenary-slides-v7.pdf.

During this presentation, the acting Chair:

The acting Chair:

    • Presented information on these slides including:
      • Instructions for the WG Chair (and TG Chairs);
      • Participants’ duty to inform the IEEE;
      • Ways to inform IEEE;
      • Other guidelines for IEEE WG meetings; and
      • Patent-related information.
    • Made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents” thereby providing an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard.
      • There were no responses to the call.
    • Reviewed meeting “Decorum” or rules, including the policies on public reporting, and on photography or recording (slide 8);
      • The acting Chair called for any members of the press (i.e., anyone reporting publicly on this meeting) to announce their presence.
        • There were no responses to the call.
  • Showed the list of 802.1 Officers (slide 9) that remained unchanged from the opening plenary meeting except for mention of Craig Gunther’s appointment as TSN TG Vice-Chair.
  • Reviewed the list of 802.1 voters (slide 10), including information about individuals who gained (slide 11), may gain (slides 12 and 13), may lose (slide 14), will lose (slide 15) 802.1 voting membership. The acting Chair reminded individual participants of their obligations and of 802.11 reciprocal credit, which was continued at this meeting (slide 16).
  • Reviewed the schedule for future 802.1 interim sessions (slide 16), which remained unchanged from the opening plenary meeting, except for the following additions:
  • Conducted straw polls about this plenary session (slide 21):
    • Do you like this venue?
      • Yes: 56 No: 2
    • Did you like the social?
      • Yes: 54 No: 0
    • Did you go to the social?
      • Yes: 58 No: 6
  • Reviewed the schedule for future 802.1 plenary sessions (slide 22), which remained unchanged from the opening plenary meeting.
  • Introduced promotional activities (slide 23) with upcoming relevant events including:
  • Reviewed the WG’s current workload (slide 24).
  • Showed the 802.1 plenary schedule/agenda for this session (slide 25).
  • Introduced information about the reports on 802 Standing Committees (SCs) and on the 802 Task Force (TF, slide 26):
    • The acting Chair reported on the IETF SC that did not meet.
    • The acting Chair reported on the JTC1 SC.
    • The acting Chair reported on the ITU SC. that did not meet.
  • Reported on the following 802 TF topics (slide 27):
    • The 802 Task Force meetings will become teleconferences with a follow-up at SASB meetings
    • Initial call will be 28 May 2019 11am-noon ET
    • IEEE SA tools update will be given at SASB next week
    • Web conferencing: do we want to switch to WebEx?
    • Bulk FrameMaker licensing will be investigated by IEEE
  • Requested that the sub group Chairs provide reports on the activities of their sub groups (slide 29; see individual sub group minutes above for details):
    • The Maintenance TG Chair, Paul Congdon, presented the report on slides 30-33.
    • The Nendica Chair, Roger Marks, presented the report on slide 34.
    • The OmniRAN TG Chair, Max Riegel, presented the report on slides 35-37.
    • The Security TG Chair, Mick Seaman, presented the report on slide 38.
    • The TSN TG Chair, János Farkas, presented the report on slide 39.
    • The YANGsters acting Chair, Stephan Kehrer, presented the report on slide 40.

The meeting recessed at 3:15 PM and reconvened at 3:50 PM.

The acting Chair:

http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/maint-randall-SC6CommentResponse802c-v03.pdf

        • In the WG, Proposed: Paul Congdon Second: Mick Seaman
          • (y/n/a): 42, 0, 0
        • In EC, mover: John Messenger Second: David Law
          • (y/n/a): <y>,<n>,<a>
    • EC consent agenda motions: Information Items (II)
      • Motion
        • Approve liaison of the following response to IEEE 1914

 

Proposed: János Farkas Second: Jessy Rouyer

          • In EC, for information
      • Motion
        • Approve liaison of the following response to CPRI Cooperation

 

Proposed: János Farkas Second: Jessy Rouyer

http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2019/maint-randall-SC6Ballotresponse1Q2018-0319-v01.pdf

          • In the WG, Proposed: Mick Seaman Second: Paul Congdon

(y/n/a): 41, 0, 0

          • In EC, mover: John Messenger Second: David Law

(y/n/a): <y>,<n>,<a>

    • EC regular motions: Information Items (II)
      • Motion
      • Motion
        • Liaise the latest revision of the P802.1AS-Rev draft specification to ODVA SIG for Distributed Motion and Time Synchronization.
        • Proposed: Jordon Woods
        • Second: Mark Hantel
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 37, 0, 0
        • In the LMSC: for information
    • WG motions
    • Maintenance TG motions
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the Maintenance TG to hold teleconferences on May 14, 2019 and July 9, 2019 at 11:00 AM EST if necessary. Access information will be posted to the 802.1 reflector in advance.
        • Proposed: Paul Congdon
        • Second: Craig Gunther
        • Approved by acclamation
    • OmniRAN TG motions
      • Motion
        • Approve OmniRAN TG conference calls:
          • Apr 5, 2019, 09:00 AM ET 1.5hr
          • Apr 26, 2019, 09:00 AM ET 1.5hr
          • Further conference calls until the July 2019 plenary with at least 14 days prior notice to the 802.1 mailing list.
          • Agenda proposal and call-in details will be announced at least 14 days prior to the call on the 802.1 mailing list and made available on http://1.ieee802.org/omniran/
        • Moved: Max Riegel, Second: Hao Wang
        • Result: Approved by acclamation
    • Security TG motions
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the Security Task Group to hold teleconferences to progress P802E, P802.1X-Rev, PAR development for 802.1AE privacy enhancements, and task group matters arising:
          • Dates/times to be announced subject to notice of at least 10 days to the 802.1 email exploder
        • Proposed: Congdon Second: McIntosh
        • Approved by acclamation
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the May 2019 Interim to generate a PAR and CSD for an amendment to IEEE Std 802.1AE specifying Privacy enhancements for use with MACsec.
        • Proposed: Congdon Second: McIntosh
        • For: 40 Against: 0 Abstain: 1
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the editor of P802E (Recommended Practice for Privacy Considerations for IEEE 802 Technologies), Jerome Henry, to produce drafts for and conduct Working Group balloting.
        • Proposed: Congdon Second: McIntosh
        • For: 40 Against: 0 Abstain: 1
    • TSN TG motions
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold an Interim meeting in Vienna on July 19, 2019 (i.e., the Friday after the IEEE 802 Plenary session) together with IEC 65C/MT9 to progress the IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Ludwig Winkel
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 41, 0, 1
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes Paul Unbehagen, the editor of P802.1Qcj Automatic Attachment to Provider Backbone Bridging (PBB) Services, to prepare drafts for and conduct Working Group balloting.
        • Proposed: Paul Unbehagen
        • Second: János Farkas
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 42, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes Paul Congdon, the editor of P802.1Qcz Bridges and Bridged Networks Amendment: Congestion Isolation, to prepare drafts for and conduct Task Group balloting.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Rodney Cummings
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 40, 0, 1
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes Christophe Mangin, the editor of P802.1CBdb Frame Replication and Elimination for Reliability Amendment: Extended Stream Identification Functions, to prepare drafts for and conduct Task Group balloting.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Craig Gunther
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 40, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes Feng Chen, the editor of P802.1Qdd Bridges and Bridged Networks Amendment: Resource Allocation Protocol, to prepare drafts for and conduct Task Group balloting.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Ludwig Winkel
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 42, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes János Farkas, the editor of P802.1CMde Time-Sensitive Networking for Fronthaul Amendment: Enhancements to Fronthaul Profiles to Support New Fronthaul Interface, Synchronization, and Syntonization Standards, to prepare drafts for and conduct Task Group balloting.
        • Proposed: Jessy Rouyer
        • Second: Tero Mustala
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 42, 0, 1
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes Craig Gunther, the editor of P802.1DG Time-Sensitive Networking Profile for Automotive In-Vehicle Ethernet Communications, to prepare drafts for and conduct Task Group balloting.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Mike Potts
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 43, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the May 2019 Interim to generate PAR and CSD for pre-circulation to the EC for an amendment to IEEE Std 802.1AB to specify LLDPv2.
        • Proposed: Paul Congdon
        • Second: Mark Hantel
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 42, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the May 2019 Interim to generate PAR and CSD for pre-circulation to the EC for an amendment to IEEE 802.1Q to specify TSN Configuration Enhancements.
        • Proposed: Stephan Kehrer
        • Second: János Farkas
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 37, 0, 1
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold pre-meeting on the Monday morning of the July 2019 Plenary session.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Craig Gunther
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 40, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold an Interim meeting on September 23, 2019, to progress the IEEE P802.1 DG Project. The meeting is hosted by General Motors.
          • No registration fee
          • Location: General Motors VEC-East, 30400 Van Dyke, Warren, MI 48093, USA
          • Proposed: Michael Potts
          • Second: Craig Gunther
          • In the WG (y/n/a): 40, 0, 0
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold teleconferences weekly on Mondays from 11:00 AM (US- Eastern) to 1:00 PM (US-Eastern).
        • Access information is posted on the http://www.ieee802.org/1/tsn page and will be updated as necessary.
        • Agenda will be announced on the 802.1 email reflector at least 5 days before the call.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Craig Gunther
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold bi-weekly teleconferences together with IEC 65C/MT9 to progress the IEC/IEEE 60802 Joint Project on Mondays from 9:00 AM (US-Eastern) to 11:00 AM (US-Eastern), starting on March 25, 2019.
        • Access information is posted on the http://www.ieee802.org/1/tsn page and will be updated as necessary.
        • Agenda will be announced on the 802.1 email reflector at
        • least 5 days before the call.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Ludwig Winkel
        • Approved by acclamation.
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes the TSN Task Group to hold bi-weekly teleconferences to progress the P802.1DG project on Tuesdays from 9:00 AM (US-Eastern) to 10:00 AM (US- Eastern) starting on April 2, 2019.
        • Access information is posted on the http://www.ieee802.org/1/tsn page and will be updated as necessary.
        • Agenda will be announced on the 802.1 email reflector at least 5 days before the call.
        • Proposed: Michael Potts
        • Second: Craig Gunther
        • Approved by acclamation.
    • YANGsters motion
      • Motion
        • 802.1 authorizes monthly teleconferences for the YANGsters group convening on the last Tuesday of every month from
        • 10:00 AM (US-Eastern) to 11:00 AM (US-Eastern), starting on March 26, 2019.
        • Access information is posted on the
        • https://1.ieee802.org/yangsters/yangsters-call-information/
        • page and will be updated as necessary.
        • Agenda will be announced on the 802.1 email reflector at least 5 days before the call.
        • Proposed: János Farkas
        • Second: Stephan Kehrer
        • Approved by acclamation.
    • Nendica motion
      • Motion
        • 802.1 Authorizes Nendica to meet in person on May 14, 2019 in Atlanta (at the Wireless interim meeting) and to hold teleconferences on April 10, 2019 (11:00 AM ET), April 18, 2019 (09:00 AM ET), and May 07, 2019 (09:00 AM ET), with additional teleconferences to be announced at least 10 days in advance.
        • Proposed: Zein Second: Marks
        • For_40_Against_0 Abstain_0_
    • EC regular motions: External communications (Motion, External – ME)
    • Motions – Any others?
      • Motion
        • Liaise the latest revision of the P802.1AS-Rev draft specification to IEEE 1588 WG.
        • Proposed: Rodney Cummings
        • Second: Don Pannell
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 24, 0, 0
        • In the LMSC: for information
      • Motion
        • Approve liaison of the following drafts to ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6 for information under the PSDO agreement at sponsor ballot time:
          • P802.1AX-Rev
        • Proposed: Jessy Rouyer
        • Second: Janos Farkas
        • In the WG (y/n/a): 19, 0, 0
        • In the LMSC: for information

Next Session

May 20-24, 2019, Salt Lake City, UT, USA

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