September 2017 Interim Session in St John’s, NL, Canada
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PDF of approved session minutes (taking precedence over the following)
IEEE 802.1 Working Group
5-8 September 2017 Interim Meeting
St John’s, Newfoundland, Canada
Meeting Minutes
The 802.1 Chair, Glenn Parsons, presided.
The 802.1 Recording Secretary, Jessy Rouyer, wrote the minutes in part based on input from
802.1 Task Group Chairs.
1 Attendance and affiliation
Last Name | First Name | Affiliation |
Assmann | Ralf | Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. |
Bao | Shenghua | HUAWEI |
Bjornstad | Steinar | TransPacket |
Boiger | Christian | b-plus GmbH |
Bottorff | Paul | Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. |
Chen | David | Nokia |
Chen | Feng | Siemens AG |
Congdon | Paul | Tallac Networks; Huawei |
Cummings | Rodney | National Instruments Corporation |
Elbakoury | Hesham | Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd |
Ellegaard | Lars | Microsemi Corporation |
Fang | Yonggang | ZTE TX Inc |
Farkas | Janos | Ericsson |
Finn | Norman | Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd |
Fontaine | Mickael | TransPacket |
Garner | Geoffrey | Broadcom Corporation |
Gravel | Mark | Hewlett Packard Enterprise |
Gray | Eric W | Ericsson AB |
Gunther | Craig | HARMAN INTERNATIONAL INDUSTRIES, INCORPORATED |
Gutierrez | Marina | TTTech Computertechnik AG |
Haddock | Stephen | Stephen Haddock Consulting, LLC |
Hantel | Mark | Rockwell Automation |
Holness | Marc | Ciena Corporation |
Hotta | Yoshifumi | Mitsubishi Electric Corporation |
Itaya | Satoko | National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) |
Kehrer | Stephan | Hirschmann Automation and Control, Inc. |
Kojima | Fumihide | National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) |
KOTO | Hajime | National Institute of Information and Communications Technology (NICT) |
Mangin | Christophe | Mitsubishi Electric Corporation |
Mansfield | Scott | Telefon AB LM Ericsson |
Maruhashi | Kenichi | NEC Corporation |
Mayer | Michael | Huawei Technologies Co. Canada Ltd |
Messenger | John | ADVA Optical Networking Ltd. |
Mustala | Tero | Nokia Networks |
Nikolich | Paul | SAMSUNG |
Ohsawa | Tomoki | NICT |
Pannell | Donald R | Marvell Semiconductor, Inc. |
Parsons | Glenn | Ericsson AB |
Pienciak | Walter | IEEE |
QIU | WEI | Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd |
Ren | Maohua | CRRC Zhuzhou Institute Co.Ltd |
Riegel | Maximilian | Nokia Networks |
Rouyer | Jessy | Nokia |
Shen | Li | Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd |
Specht | Johannes | University of Duisburg-Essen and General Motors Company |
Su | Dang | CRRC Zhuzhou Institute Co.Ltd |
Thaler | Patricia | Broadcom Limited |
Unbehagen | Paul | Avaya Inc. |
Wang | Hao | Fujitsu Research & Development Center |
Wang | Tongtong | Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd |
Wang | Xinyuan | Huawei Technologies Co. Ltd |
Winkel | Ludwig | Siemens AG |
YU | XIANG | Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd |
Zein | Nader | NEC Corporation |
2 Task Group Meetings
2.1 Data Center Bridging
The Data Center Bridging (DCB) Task Group Chair, Patricia Thaler, presided and wrote the minutes.
At the beginning of the meeting on Wednesday, Patricia Thaler presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings, and presented the IEEE 802 Participation slide. At the beginning of the meetings on Wednesday and Thursday, Patricia Thaler made the “Call for Potentially Essential Patents”. There were no responses to the calls prior to the end of the week’s sessions.
Tuesday 5 September 2017 10:00 AM-12:00 PM
Call to order: 5 September 2017 10:00 AM
Patricia Thaler presented the following agenda for the meeting:
- New Work presentation on congestion isolation – Paul Congdon
- Review presentation on IEEE 802c – Roger Marks
This agenda was approved.
Paul Congdon presented Congestion Management – Congestion Isolation http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-dcb-congdon-congestion-isolation-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: Based on comments, Paul Congdon updated the presentation as http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-dcb-congdon-congestion-isolation-0917-v02.pdf after the meeting. Suggestions were made that this should also be presented to the IEEE 802.1 TSN TG for broader feedback.
Thursday 7 September 2017 1:30 PM-3:00 PM
Call to order: 7 September 2017 1:30 PM
Roger Marks presented IEEE Std 802c: What’s New and Useful in the Overview and Architecture http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/802c-Marks-summary-0917-r0.pdf,
slides that he planned to present at the wireless interim the next week.
Disposition: Presentation updated as http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/802c-Marks-summary-0917-r1.pdf
2.2 Maintenance
The Maintenance Task Group minutes are incorporated in these minutes by reference and are available at http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/maint/2017-09-maintenance-meeting-v1.pdf.
2.3 OmniRAN
OmniRAN Task Group meeting minutes are incorporated into these minutes by reference and are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/17/omniran-17-0070-00-00TG-september-2017-f2f-meeting-minutes.docx.
Current status of OmniRAN Task Group activities (including future meeting announcements, past meeting and conference call minutes) is available via a wiki located at https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/bp/StartPage.
2.4 Time-Sensitive Networking
The Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) Task Group Chair, János Farkas presided. Craig Gunther wrote the minutes.
At the beginning of the meetings on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, János Farkas presented the IEEE-SA PatCom Patent Slides for Standards Development Meetings https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.pdf, and made the Call for Potentially Essential Patents. There were no responses to the calls prior to the end of the week’s session.
Tuesday 5 September 2017 8:00 AM-4:00 PM
Call to order: 5 September 2017, 8:00 AM
János Farkas presented the agenda for the TSN Task Group meeting week: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dC1LbGGD01vdoElrg-OLpZc13gKR50DV4yzclrs6qE8
Disposition: Administrative
Glenn Parsons presented the St. John’s meeting details
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/admin-parsons-nfld-interim-update-0917-v1.pdf
Disposition: Administrative
Hajime Koto presented a proposal for a future interim meeting location http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/admin-koto-proposal-of-IEEE802-1-Interim-meeting-0917.pdf
Disposition: Administrative
János Farkas provided a TSN promotion update on:
- TSN Tutorial at IETF 99 https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/slides/slides-99-edu-sessg-time-sensitive-networking-tutorial-english-language-janos-farkas-norman-finn-patricia-thaler-02.pdf,
- IEEE Communications Standards Magazine – TSN feature topic http://www.comsoc.org/comstandardsmag/cfp/time-sensitive-networking-standards,
- TSN/A Conference – TSN Technology & Applications (Sep 20-21, 2017, Stuttgart) http://www.tsnaconference.de/home.html,
- IEEE-SA Ethernet & IP @ Automotive Technology Day (Nov 1-2, 2017) https://standards.ieee.org/events/automotive/,
- TSN for Industrial – flyer http://standards.ieee.org/downloads/TSN_for_Industrial_Networks.pdf,
- TSN for Automotive – flyer http://standards.ieee.org/downloads/TSN_for_Automotive_Networks.pdf.
Disposition: TSN promotion update
Geoff Garner, P802.1AS-Rev editor, led the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d5/802-1AS-rev-d5-0.pdf, and presented P802.1AS-Rev/D5.0 Editor’s Report http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/as-garner-802-1AS-Rev-d5-0-wg-ballot-editors-report-07-17-v5.pdf and Items Related to Several Managed Objects Pertaining to EPON Transport in 802.1AS-Rev http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/as-garner-802-1as-d5-0-comment-epon-managed-objects-0917.pdf
Disposition: Ballot comment resolution recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/as-rev-drafts/d5/802-1AS-rev-d5-0-dis.pdf
Rodney Cummings, P802.1Qcc editor, led the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cc-drafts/d1/802-1Qcc-d1-6.pdf
Disposition: Ballot comment resolution recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cc-drafts/d1/802-1Qcc-d1-6-dis-v2.pdf.
Wednesday 6 September 2017 10:00 AM-6:00 PM
Call to order: 6 September 2017, 10:00 AM
János Farkas presented the incoming liaison letter in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/liaison-bbf2017.525.01-SOAM_YANG-0717.pdf
Disposition: Incoming liaison letter, response covered by http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/liaison-ITUT-SG15-LS43_CFM_YANG-0717.pdf
Marc Holness, P802.1Qcp editor, presented http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cp-drafts/d1/802-1Qcp-d1-2-dis-v01.pdf, showed https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-bjorklund-netmod-rfc7223bis-00.txt, and added a rogue comment on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cp-drafts/d1/802-1Qcp-d1-2.pdf based on discussion.
Disposition: Ballot comment resolution recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cp-drafts/d1/802-1Qcp-d1-2-dis-v02.pdf
Scott Mansfield presented Draft YANG for P802.1ABcu http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cu-mansfield-draft-YANG-0917-v02.pdf
Disposition: Related to new project; more discussion needed
Scott Mansfield presented Draft YANG for P802.1Qcx http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cx-mansfield-draft-YANG-0917-v02.pdf
Disposition: Related to new project; more discussion needed
Norman Finn, P802.1CB editor, provided an update on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cb-drafts/d2/802-1CB-d2-9.pdf
Disposition: Editor’s update on ongoing project
János Farkas presented Rebuttal Comments from 802.11 with responses from 802.1 http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/admin-farkas-11-rebuttal-responses-0717-v1.pdf regarding the P802.1CBcv PAR and CSD updated as
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cv-draft-PAR-0917-v01.pdf, and
http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cv-draft-CSD-0917-v01.pdf, respectively.
Disposition: New project; updated PAR will be precirculated
Norman Finn, P802.1CS editor, led the resolution of comments received on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cs-drafts/d1/802-1CS-d1-0.pdf
Disposition: Ballot comment resolution recorded in http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cs-drafts/d1/802-1CS-d1-0-pdis-v02.pdf
A joint meeting of the OmniRAN and TSN TGs was held starting at 1:30 PM.
During this joint meeting, Max Riegel presented Time Sensitive Networking within the scope of P802.1CF https://mentor.ieee.org/omniran/dcn/17/omniran-17-0067-02-CF00-tsn-in-the-scope-of-p802-1cf.pptx. The two TGs met separately following discussion of this presentation.
Disposition: Related to ongoing project. Also see page 4 of the OmniRAN TG minutes.
Paul Bottorff presented Edge Control Transport for LRP http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cs-bottorff-ecp-lrp-0917-v2.pdf
Disposition: Supports ballot comment
Ludwig Winkel presented Information from IEC TC65 to IEEE 802 http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-winkel-tsn-profile-0917-v00.pdf
Disposition: Proposes new project; more discussion needed
Thursday 07 September 2017 8:00 AM-6:00 PM
Call to order: 07 September 2017, 8:00 AM
Tero Mustala and Olivier Klein presented eCPRI Overview http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cm-mustala-eCPRI-Overview-0917.pdf
Disposition: Contribution to ongoing project
Glenn Parsons presented the incoming liaison letter in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/liaison-3GPP-RAN3-173354-0917.zip
Disposition: Incoming liaison letter, response will be sent from next Plenary
János Farkas presented Support for eCPRI in 802.1CM http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cm-farkas-eCPRI-support-0917-v01.pdf,
and Leveraging ON/OFF Traffic Model – Literature Example http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cm-farkas-leveraging-ON-OFF-traffic-model-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: Contributions to ongoing project
Hajime Koto presented IEEE 802.1 Interim meeting proposal January, 2019 in Japan http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/admin-koto-proposal-of-IEEE802-1-Interim-meeting-0917.pdf. János Farkas then conducted a straw poll on the desired dates and location of the January 2019 interim meeting.
Disposition: Straw poll results:
- Chicago rules: Kobe 21, Hiroshima 20, Fukuoka 18.
- Single vote: Hiroshima 16, Kobe 12, Fukuoka 5.
Hiroshima, 14-18 January 2019, were chosen as the desired location and dates.
János Farkas presented DetNet update from IETF 99 http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-farkas-DetNet-update-from-IETF99-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: Update on ongoing work in related WG
Norman Finn presented Filling DetNet Needs http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-finn-detnet-needs-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposals; more discussion needed
Paul Unbehagen, P802.1Qcj editor, led the resolution of comments received on http://ieee802.org/1/files/private/cj-drafts/d0/802-1Qcj-d0-2.pdf
Disposition: Ballot comment resolution recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/cj-drafts/d0/802-1Qcj-d0-2-pdis-v00.pdf
Norman Finn presented 802.1Q Queues for non-bridges
http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-finn-non-bridge-queuing-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposal; more discussion needed
Stephen Haddock, P802.1AX-Rev editor, presented 802.1AX ‐‐ Link Aggregation: Editor’s Report: September 2017 http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/ax-rev-haddock-editors-report-0917-v1.pdf and concluded the resolution of comments received on http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/ax-rev-drafts/d0/802-1ax-rev-d0-1.pdf
Disposition: Editor’s update on ongoing project and ballot comment resolution recorded in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/ax-rev-drafts/d0/802-1AX-Rev-d0-1-pdis-v02.pdf
Craig Gunther presented 802.1 Time-Sensitive Networking (TSN) on 802.3cg Multidrop networks http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/tsn-cgunther-802-3cg-multidrop-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: Update on ongoing work in related WG
Friday 08 September 2017 8:00 AM-4:00 PM
Call to order: 08 September 2017, 8:00 AM
Scott Mansfield presented the incoming liaison letter in http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/liaison-MEF-L00268_MEF_10.4_AD1_0917.pdf and MEF 10.4-related material posted post-meeting in MEF 10.4 Notes http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/yangsters-smansfield-mef-10-4-notes-0917-v01.pptx
Disposition: Incoming liaison letter, response will be sent from next Plenary
Rodney Cummings presented TSN Configuration Roadmap http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-cummings-tsn-config-roadmap-0717-v0.pdf
Disposition: New proposals; more discussion needed
Feng Shen presented More details on Resource Allocation Protocol (RAP)
http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-chen-RAP-details-0717-v03.pdf and posted http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/tsn-chen-RAP-whitepaper-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposals; more discussion needed
Christophe Mangin presented Extension of Stream Identification Functions http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-mangin-extension-stream-id-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposals; more discussion needed
Johannes Specht, P802.1Qcr editor, presented Bridge Timing http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/cr-specht-bridge-timing-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: Related to ongoing project; more discussion needed
Michael Mayer presented Recent work to define asymmetry correction http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-mayer-asymmetry-correction-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposal; more discussion needed
Wayne Qiu presented Future Industrial Network Requirement Discussion for TSN http://ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-qiu-future-industrial-network-requirement-0917-v01.pdf
Disposition: New proposal; more discussion needed
Paul Congdon presented Congestion Management – Congestion Isolation http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2017/new-dcb-congdon-congestion-isolation-0917-v02.pdf
Disposition: New proposal; more discussion needed
3 Next meeting
6-10 November 2017, Orlando, Florida, U.S.A.